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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 13.05.07 13:40 Uhr |
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I am trying to track down any information about a couple of climbers who
were climbing in the Peak District in the late 1960's and early seventies.
One was the Chief Instructor of Hollowford Training Centre (Now Lindley
Lodge) In Castleton, he was named Rod Brown, he put up a few good aid routes
on limestone in the Winnats and other places until he died finishing a climb
over the loose rubble at the top of Millstone.
The other was his friend "Hoppy" whom I climbed with once or twice when I
too was Chief Instructor in the early seventies at Hollowford Training
Centre and from whom I bought all of Rod's extensive rack of aid climbing
gear, all of which I still have.
I would be interested if anyone knows anything about these two guys and if
Hoppy is still around?
Cheers
John B
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 13.05.07 14:10 Uhr |
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John Broadwell wrote:
> I am trying to track down any information about a couple of climbers who
> were climbing in the Peak District in the late 1960's and early seventies.
Hi John,
It pains me to admit it, but this newsgroup is pretty much dead. You may
get lucky, but if not you'll stand a much greater chance in the web-based
forum he
[externer Link]
Good luck.
Sean
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 14.05.07 13:44 Uhr |
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:10:53 +0100, Sean <sean@nospamtaverymuch.com>
wrote:
>It pains me to admit it, but this newsgroup is pretty much dead.
ah, I suspected as much. I've just started climbing and thought this
would be a good place (I use newsgroups extensively elsewhere), but
the traffic seems to be minimal.
Why is that? Did this place ever have high volumes?
>you'll stand a much greater chance in the web-based forum he
>[externer Link]
Ah, ok, I'll look in there. But web-forums are rubbish to use in
comparison, imo.
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 14.05.07 14:26 Uhr |
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Champ wrote:
> ah, I suspected as much. I've just started climbing and thought this
> would be a good place (I use newsgroups extensively elsewhere), but
> the traffic seems to be minimal.
>
> Why is that? Did this place ever have high volumes?
I think mainly because the web-forum has been such a huge success, it gets
enormous amounts of traffic and the newsgroup became quieter and quieter as
the other forum became more popular.
> Ah, ok, I'll look in there. But web-forums are rubbish to use in
> comparison, imo.
I always thought so too, but I guess now that so many people have broadband
the bandwidth thing isn't an issue. A lot of people have never heard of
Usenet these days, and there seem to be a fair few posters who actually
think its part of Google's website. You've probably met them elsewhere.
Good luck in your search.
Sean
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 14.05.07 18:08 Uhr |
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Hi, Sean & all,
"Sean" <sean@nospamtaverymuch.com> wrote in message
news:f29khv$aoe$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
> Champ wrote:
>
>> ah, I suspected as much. I've just started climbing and thought this
>> would be a good place (I use newsgroups extensively elsewhere), but
>> the traffic seems to be minimal.
>>
>> Why is that? Did this place ever have high volumes?
It certainly did, back in the late 90s and early noughties it was quite
popular, and some of us spent an unconscionable amount of time on it. It
also had quite a nice flavour, with fewer flames than some other groups I
could mention. Best of all, I met most of my climbing partners through
u.r.c (including Sean, IIRC) so that's a plus.
> I think mainly because the web-forum has been such a huge success, it gets
> enormous amounts of traffic and the newsgroup became quieter and quieter
> as
> the other forum became more popular.
<snips>
I think another reason is that a lot of people do this kind of thing during
work time, and browser-based access is much more likely to be available in a
workplace. M$ Outlook (as opposed to O.Express) doesn't even have a
newsreader, AFAIK.
> A lot of people have never heard of
> Usenet these days, and there seem to be a fair few posters who actually
> think its part of Google's website.
Indeed, mention of Usenet generally gets a blank look.
Steve
PS Did you know that Charles Arthur writes (on technology) for the Grauniad
now?
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 14.05.07 21:18 Uhr |
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 17:08:09 +0100, "Steve Pardoe"
<steveSP@AMpardoes.com> wrote:
>Hi, Sean & all,
>
>"Sean" <sean@nospamtaverymuch.com> wrote in message
>news:f29khv$aoe$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>> Champ wrote:
>>
>>> ah, I suspected as much. I've just started climbing and thought this
>>> would be a good place (I use newsgroups extensively elsewhere), but
>>> the traffic seems to be minimal.
>>>
>>> Why is that? Did this place ever have high volumes?
>
>It certainly did, back in the late 90s and early noughties it was quite
>popular, and some of us spent an unconscionable amount of time on it. It
>also had quite a nice flavour, with fewer flames than some other groups I
>could mention. Best of all, I met most of my climbing partners through
>u.r.c (including Sean, IIRC) so that's a plus.
So I'm too late. Curses :-/
>> I think mainly because the web-forum has been such a huge success, it gets
>> enormous amounts of traffic and the newsgroup became quieter and quieter as
>> the other forum became more popular.
>
><snips>
>
>I think another reason is that a lot of people do this kind of thing during
>work time, and browser-based access is much more likely to be available in a
>workplace. M$ Outlook (as opposed to O.Express) doesn't even have a
>newsreader, AFAIK.
Well, I guess that's true.
>> A lot of people have never heard of
>> Usenet these days, and there seem to be a fair few posters who actually
>> think its part of Google's website.
Including a journalist on the Sunday Times, who last weekend asked
Google why they allowed questionable content on 'their newsgroups'!
>Indeed, mention of Usenet generally gets a blank look.
Well, I sort of like that, to be honest :-)
My main problem with web-forums is that they don't thread, so it's not
obvious who is replying to who.
--
Champ
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 15.05.07 10:11 Uhr |
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Steve Pardoe wrote:
> Hi, Sean & all,
Ey up. Nice to know I'm not the only one still lurking, watching the
tumbleweeds blow by. :)
> Best of all, I met most of my climbing partners through
> u.r.c (including Sean, IIRC) so that's a plus.
Still doing the regular NWF meets?
Hah. That was the beginning of the end, when you bowed to pressure to move
your regular 'who's playing out in Warrington' thread off the ng. Little
did anyone know it was the only thing holding the place together.
> PS Did you know that Charles Arthur writes (on technology) for the
> Grauniad now?
Nope, I didn't. I'll keep an eye out for his byline.
Sean
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 15.05.07 12:22 Uhr |
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Hi, Sean & all,
"Sean" <sean@nospamtaverymuch.com> wrote in message
news:f2bpv2$tp9$2@news.freedom2surf.net...
> Steve Pardoe wrote:
>
> > Hi, Sean & all,
>
> Ey up. Nice to know I'm not the only one still lurking, watching the
> tumbleweeds blow by. :)
Indeed, there goes another one.....
> > Best of all, I met most of my climbing partners through
> > u.r.c (including Sean, IIRC) so that's a plus.
>
> Still doing the regular NWF meets?
In the winter, yes, most Wednesdays. Now that it's summer (hah!) we
generally play outside, such as Helsby a couple of weeks ago, or even
further afield such as the Roaches; plus weekend outings, so we are still in
regular contact and climbing together when we can. Which is nice.
> Hah. That was the beginning of the end, when you bowed to pressure to
move
> your regular 'who's playing out in Warrington' thread off the ng. Little
> did anyone know it was the only thing holding the place together.
Now we communicate by circular e-mails, but it does mean we can safely move
off-topic, such as passing on info about ridiculous cycle lanes, as Arnaud
did, for example ...
[externer Link] (ooops!).
> > PS Did you know that Charles Arthur writes (on technology) for the
> > Grauniad now?
>
> Nope, I didn't. I'll keep an eye out for his byline.
Do. I wonder whether he's still climbing?
Laters,
Steve
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 15.05.07 17:30 Uhr |
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:22:54 +0100, "Steve Pardoe"
<steveSP@AMpardoes.com> wrote:
>
>> > PS Did you know that Charles Arthur writes (on technology) for the
>> > Grauniad now?
>>
>> Nope, I didn't. I'll keep an eye out for his byline.
>
>Do. I wonder whether he's still climbing?
Yes - and he's also part of UKC these days!
[externer Link]
S
--
Stop ID cards and the Database State
[externer Link]
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 16.05.07 12:05 Uhr |
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Hi, Simon & all,
"Simon Caldwell" <simonjcaldwell@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:mekj43hhohusb9soq6dcl1ciroj0cd9s86@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:22:54 +0100, "Steve Pardoe"
> <steveSP@AMpardoes.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> > PS Did you know that Charles Arthur writes (on technology) for the
>>> > Grauniad now?
>>>
>>> Nope, I didn't. I'll keep an eye out for his byline.
>>
>>Do. I wonder whether he's still climbing?
>
> Yes - and he's also part of UKC these days!
>
> [externer Link]
Ah, another one over to The Dark Side.
And...
> Stop ID cards and the Database State
> [externer Link]
<rant>
Don't even get me started. I've seen this before in your sig, let's hope
Gordon Brown decides to scrap the whole festering nonsense on cost grounds
if nothing else. Would ID cards have prevented 7/7? Er, no. Or Menezes'
being shot? Er, no. That recent £1.8M benefit fraud [1]? Er, no.
I find it amazing that the immigration authorities don't even keep a record
of which passport holders are in the country at any one time by simply
logging you in and out at the border. That would cost almost nothing, and
would flag up when 'visitors' (who wouldn't have ID cards anyway) overstay.
Oh dear, I'm ranting again. Well, I am a Steve.
</rant>
SteveP
[1]
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 16.05.07 12:39 Uhr |
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In article <T8CdncVV85jCStfbnZ2dnUVZ8qOtnZ2d@pipex.net>,
"Steve Pardoe" <steveSP@AMpardoes.com> wrote:
> Hi, Simon & all,
>
> "Simon Caldwell" <simonjcaldwell@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > Stop ID cards and the Database State
> > [externer Link]
>
> <rant>
>
> Don't even get me started.
snippage
> Oh dear, I'm ranting again. Well, I am a Steve.
>
> </rant>
>
nice rant steve :-)
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 16.05.07 23:38 Uhr |
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Steve Pardoe wrote:
> Don't even get me started. I've seen this before in your sig, let's hope
> Gordon Brown decides to scrap the whole festering nonsense on cost grounds
> if nothing else.
You can always hope, but as chancellor he's funded a few IT projects
that "festering nonsense" would be far to rosy a description for.
He's also committed to updating Trident - billions on a weapon we can't
possibly use while our conventional armed forces are hopelessly
overstretched in ill-fitting boots. I could rant myself...
... but I won't.
Cheers all.
Sean
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 21.05.07 16:19 Uhr |
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>Oh dear, I'm ranting again. Well, I am a Steve.
Good to see the honourable tradition is being maintained, Mr P.
--
Steve "Steve" Gray
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 22.05.07 11:09 Uhr |
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"Steve Gray" <steve@blah_de_blah.com> wrote in message
news:$0E5QoM6paUGRAeC@wcompsys.co.uk...
>
>>Oh dear, I'm ranting again. Well, I am a Steve.
>
> Good to see the honourable tradition is being maintained, Mr P.
Good to hear from you! How's tricks?
> --
> Steve "Steve" Gray
That's another honourable tradition, too ;-)
S
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 25.05.07 11:35 Uhr |
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In message <W5-dnSXbDNHILs_bRVnysAA@pipex.net>, Steve Pardoe
<steveSP@AMpardoes.com> writes
>"Steve Gray" <steve@blah_de_blah.com> wrote in message
>news:$0E5QoM6paUGRAeC@wcompsys.co.uk...
>>
>>>Oh dear, I'm ranting again. Well, I am a Steve.
>>
>> Good to see the honourable tradition is being maintained, Mr P.
>
>Good to hear from you! How's tricks?
Not bad, thanks. Not getting much climbing done though, hence the lack
of participation here.
Baby #4 is on the way, so I don't expect that'll change in the near
future ;)
--
Steve Gray
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 17.05.07 10:05 Uhr |
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"Simon Caldwell" <simonjcaldwell@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:mekj43hhohusb9soq6dcl1ciroj0cd9s86@4ax.com...
<steve p>>>Do. I wonder whether [Charles Arthur] is still climbing?
>
> Yes - and he's also part of UKC these days!
>
> [externer Link]
...and today he writes in the Grauniad about....
> Stop ID cards and the Database State
> [externer Link]
So get yerself a copy (Technology section p6).
S "serendipity" P
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 17.05.07 11:34 Uhr |
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Steve Pardoe wrote:
> So get yerself a copy (Technology section p6).
Righto. :)
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 16.05.07 20:58 Uhr |
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Steve Pardoe wrote
> I think another reason is that a lot of people do this kind of thing
> during work time, and browser-based access is much more likely to be
> available in a workplace. M$ Outlook (as opposed to O.Express) doesn't
> even have a newsreader, AFAIK.
That was what eventually took me away, changing PCs at work. These days I
just look in now and then from home but I too have gone over to the dark
side and post (insert your own appropriate stylistic adjective here. I'd
choose 'occasionally'; sadly the more creative side of my postings have
either been drowned in the ceaseless babble on UKC or drummed out of me by
being routinely so busy at work I wonder sometimes how I ever had the time
to have an imagination, still less express it. My, what a long
parenthetical inclusion this has become!) on UKC.
Charles Arthur doesn't just write for the Grauniad, he edits their
technology section and also maintains an interesting blog; climbing doesn't
feature, leastways it hasn't thus far. But what do we know of climbing, who
only climbing know?
And I passed the regards of the cycle facility fan club, north west section
onto its originator who works at the same Lab I do. He's keen to encourage
submissions should anyone spot anything.
T.
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Sheffield climbers - old timers? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 16.05.07 23:32 Uhr |
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Tony Buckley wrote:
> And I passed the regards of the cycle facility fan club, north west
> section onto its originator who works at the same Lab I do.
Cool, maybe you could pass on my regards too, its excellent work. :o)
Ironically, I found his site through a post on UKC - was that you?
> He's keen to encourage submissions should anyone spot anything.
I'll bear that in mind if i see anything suitably silly. (The standard on
that site is pretty high though).
Sean
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