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Gore-Tex + Windstopper? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 01.02.05 11:50 Uhr |
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First I would like to apologize that I write in English but my written
German is poor. Nevertheless I have no problems if you answer me in German.
I am planning to buy a Softshell with a Gore Windstopper or other windproof
membrane (Vaude Windproof 100?) and to use mainly this as a top layer on
mountain trails. However in rain or heavy snowing I still will need my
Gore-Tex jacket. My question is how good is the combination of Gore
Windstopper (for example) and Gore-Tex XCR? Is it breathable enough? Or will
be better to stick to a normal fleece jacket instead of a Softshell?
Thanks.
Dimi
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Gore-Tex + Windstopper? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 01.02.05 12:21 Uhr |
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quoting Dimi:
> First I would like to apologize that I write in English but my written
> German is poor. Nevertheless I have no problems if you answer me in German.
Ok, dann brauche ich ja nicht mein radebrechendes Englisch rausholen ;-)
> I am planning to buy a Softshell with a Gore Windstopper or other windproof
> membrane (Vaude Windproof 100?) and to use mainly this as a top layer on
> mountain trails. However in rain or heavy snowing I still will need my
> Gore-Tex jacket. My question is how good is the combination of Gore
> Windstopper (for example) and Gore-Tex XCR? Is it breathable enough? Or will
> be better to stick to a normal fleece jacket instead of a Softshell?
Ich denke, dass kommt auch ein wenig darauf an, wieviel man schwitzt.
Ich habe zwar zwei Membran-Jacken (Windstopper zum Joggen, eine Salewa
für Alltag und Touren), aber in beiden schwitze ich - je nach Wetterlage
und Anstrengung.
Auf Touren mag ich ein Fleece lieber. Für Wanderungen bevorzuge ich
mittlerweile dicke Kleidung, durch die ein wenig Wind kann, und bei
Regen einen luftigen Umhang, der auch über den Rucksack passt.
Schwitzende Menschen werde IMO Probleme mit zwei Membranen übereinander
haben. Ich würde immer zwei Jacken (wenn überhaupt zwei) mit
unterschiedlichen Funktionen mitnehmen.
Roland
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Gore-Tex + Windstopper? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 01.02.05 14:12 Uhr |
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> I am planning to buy a Softshell with a Gore Windstopper or other windproof
> membrane (Vaude Windproof 100?) and to use mainly this as a top layer on
> mountain trails. However in rain or heavy snowing I still will need my
> Gore-Tex jacket. My question is how good is the combination of Gore
> Windstopper (for example) and Gore-Tex XCR? Is it breathable enough? Or will
> be better to stick to a normal fleece jacket instead of a Softshell?
My personal view and experience:
If it is really cold and possibly windy or snowing, the combination of windstopper (Mammut Seal Jacket)
and gore (Mammut Lhotse Jacket) works for me.
If it is cold and windy in most cases for the ascent the windstopper is enough.
If it is snowing or raining and not so cold, the gore together with some underwear is warm enough so
the windstopper would not reduce breathability.
Bottomline - I would not trade my windstopper for a normal fleece, but I think the newer softshell jackets
might be overkill.
Bernd
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Gore-Tex + Windstopper? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 01.02.05 14:21 Uhr |
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Dimi wrote:
> First I would like to apologize that I write in English but my written
> German is poor. Nevertheless I have no problems if you answer me in German.
>
> I am planning to buy a Softshell with a Gore Windstopper or other windproof
> membrane (Vaude Windproof 100?) and to use mainly this as a top layer on
> mountain trails. However in rain or heavy snowing I still will need my
> Gore-Tex jacket. My question is how good is the combination of Gore
> Windstopper (for example) and Gore-Tex XCR? Is it breathable enough? Or will
> be better to stick to a normal fleece jacket instead of a Softshell?
>
> Thanks.
> Dimi
Hi,
I think the usability of your combination strongly depends on the
temperature outside. I have made quite negative experiences with a
windstopping fleece and a membrane as outer shell at ~10°C and heavy
rain, but using it in colder conditions I encountered no probs.
Greets,
Jupp
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Gore-Tex + Windstopper? | | Bergsteiger beim Bergsteigen | 04.02.05 14:05 Uhr |
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Thank you very much to all of you guys.
Dimi
"Dimi" <douchkov@nospam.noharm.ipk-gatersleben.de> wrote in message
news:36959kF4kmldaU1@news.dfncis.de...
> First I would like to apologize that I write in English but my written
> German is poor. Nevertheless I have no problems if you answer me in
> German.
>
> I am planning to buy a Softshell with a Gore Windstopper or other
> windproof
> membrane (Vaude Windproof 100?) and to use mainly this as a top layer on
> mountain trails. However in rain or heavy snowing I still will need my
> Gore-Tex jacket. My question is how good is the combination of Gore
> Windstopper (for example) and Gore-Tex XCR? Is it breathable enough? Or
> will
> be better to stick to a normal fleece jacket instead of a Softshell?
>
> Thanks.
> Dimi
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